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chocolate for cfs and health - - -

Posted on 2007.10.01 at 16:14
thanks to my GREAT LJ friend umbreons_shadow for this:


part of my response to her:

thank you - that is AWESOME! - i will repost! -

one thing i PERSONALLY have learnt is that cfs people apparently deplete saturated fats necessary for the brain - so i always load up on saturated fats after a relapse - which isn't great for the heart - but i really porked out on chocolate a lot

i think the polyphenol thing is right on track - plus the love chemical in chocolate

but the serotonin thing in my opinion isn't as important as these - serotinin drugs are often prescribed for us - and they can be good or bad - in my case at least i think i need more acetylcholine - which i try to increase through sardines and something else - i forgot - maybe cauliflower

the problem with chocolate is the sugar - which is extremely bad for people with cfs - they are very vulnerable to yeast growth - and this produces chemicals in the blood like vinegar, ammonia, and etc., which are toxic - so then it means we can't eat so much chocolate

i just thought today that someone should create a product called "essence" - it would be a drink made from wine where the alcohol is removed - and then add to that non-sugar cocoa and other things - it would sell like hotcakes!


★  Ashlee ★
umbreons_shadow at 2007-10-01 23:40 (UTC) (Lien)
See...I knew someday my kindness would pay off. :P
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madman101 at 2007-10-01 23:47 (UTC) (Lien)

and now i'm going to lie down after all this to-do...
obscenely at 2007-10-02 00:19 (UTC) (Lien)
What an excellent article!

Mr. Madman here believes we'd be great friends, so, I think I'll trust him & go & friend you now. If that's ok?

★  Ashlee ★
umbreons_shadow at 2007-10-02 10:54 (UTC) (Lien)
Of course. :D

Thanks for the add!
obscenely at 2007-10-02 00:18 (UTC) (Lien)
What a most excellent article! I have been eating 85% cocoa dark chocolate since I became ill because I noticed I couldn't handle the sugar in the other stuff... sugar is definitely not our friend. The only time I resort to sugar is if I have a few horus of paralysis (which hasn't happened in ages thank goodness & tough wood) then a jelly bean or two usually gives me some pep.

I agree with your opinion on seratonin. Much of a muchness. You know a lot about the chemicals etc iny our body & I really admire that.
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madman101 at 2007-10-03 00:26 (UTC) (Lien)
sugar hates us! i always do yogurt if i ever do sugar - and sometimes i do salt

i'm glad you found a purer chocolate! i hope i will one day

the temptation to eat carbs seems to be high for a lot of CFS people - i think their brains crave it - but it's WRONG - and they get fat

thanks for your compliment - my knowledge is residual from the days of all m research

i found if ou increase serotonin when you're still not yet steady, it will only prolong brain fog and such
obscenely at 2007-10-03 00:44 (UTC) (Lien)
I eat wholegrain carbs.. I can't gain weight, I am trying everything (within MP limits.. but that may be the MP, and that I'm a vegetarian). Not sure if you read my last post, but I've lost a further 5kgs int eh past two months.. that's pretty much 25kgs dropped while having cfs. Well over a 1/4 of my body weight. I just want to put some weight on. I want to do some insanely light weights in bed but I'm scared of making myself worse...

What do you think of melatonin? I tried it a bit in the early days, but thought it did nothing. I refused to take sleeping pills & just put up witthe lack of sleep & it went away, but now it's back & I still have that bottle..

I don't do any added salt.. I believe there's enough int he bread I eat to get me through the day. My BP has been around 70/40 before though so when that happens I make a point of putting a little extra salt on my food until it stabilises.

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madman101 at 2007-10-03 00:55 (UTC) (Lien)
when i was logging back on, your post was there - but then it slipped behind

i hope to see it

god - i know about the terrors of even light exercise - really all you need is walking at your own pace - but i used to do the same thing in bed

your yeast is prolly eating up all the calories - try to move to a high protein diet - that can hurt at firt for a while - but a lot of cfs docs recommend it - also do a lot of zinc and copper. gas is a good thing and will subside after a while.

i have a new love - mixed veggies (peas, carrots, corn, etc.), with ramen noodles - with my own seasoning, do not use the flavour pack - MSG - it really did wonders for shall we say my digestion. now i am also eating fresh dandelion a lot - excellent for us.

melotonin worked for me, but after three days it had negative effects. valerian - didn't work. if you try a 1 MG dose of melatonin and also do a lot of fish oil, and calcium citrate w/ magnesium. even though calcium couteracts benadryl, benadryl had helped me a lot - this will help. a lonf time of meditation before sleep - no light - also helps.

i can't recommend any prescription sleep aids right now - ambien is bad.
obscenely at 2007-10-03 01:12 (UTC) (Lien)
he first prescription sleep aid I got given was . uh... (name name name.. been in the news a lot lately..) STILNOX, that's it. I refuse to take any prescriptionsleep meds, and that wasn't given to me by my current dr.

As of today my diet is changing to high-er protein. I can't live without carbs.. I am part italian & it's bad enoug I've stopped having a bread roll with ever meal! But I am going to cut them down drastically (lunch today is already planned as a 3egg-white omelette & some mixed beans & fresh vegies - no bread etc) & I'll make a point of nuts every afternoon & reduse how much pasta I eat. But my diet is already so insanely limited.

What are ramen noodles? Mighthave to google that up.. sounds like a bit of a stir fry happening there! I never know hwo to flavour it with the MO though.. I'm not allowed anything remotely soy or remotely containg fish (this incs. worchestire - escuse spelling) & swet chilli sauces etc are high in sugar. I don't eat anything with MSG in it so nothing to worry about there!

I can't take fish oil on the MP - I was before I started but it contains high amoutns of vitamin D which I have to completely avoid. I can't take any supplements fr that matter, so calcium nitrate, magnesium, everything is out. My Dr. is however prescriing a calcium/magnesium powder to drink & help with my acidosis.. so he must think that's ok.

I can't take benadryl either. I pretty much ave to try & control everything witht eh meds I'm on, and if that fails miserably, I can take stemetil (anti emetic) or things liek nurfoen.. but as little as I can handle.

& to your other comment..

My Dr. has discussed that, so he is aware & keeping an eye on it (somehow.. don't ask me how). I eat allt he things you reccomend except grape seed extract (can't have grape seed anything on the MP). I've never seen annato in cheese? Will keep an eye out for it, but as I said, can't take fish oil or benadryl.

Thankfully I don't have any problems witht he skin onmy fingers or any noticeable problems with my digestive system. I think I'velearnt what works for me.. I can feel if somethngs not right & I know how to correct it with foods I can eat. Yoghourt is a big part of my det but I have cut down since discvering I am suffering from acidosis. I would never elimate it though - I used the fat free, no added sugar, low GI etc Jalna wildberry one, so yummy! I have some frozen berries that are microwaved for me & mixed through too! Some things inmy life are tasty..

I don't have too much calcum & I have to watch what I do have (def can't be fort'd with vit d!). I wonder sometimes if I'm absorbing ANY calcium consiering how low my vit d level is.

I pretty much can't take any otherdrugs on the MP.. except for pallaitive ones when I'm desperate, so I really appreciate your advice, unfort. I can't take much of it! I think I've drawn a line in my weight where I say this is ridic & qestion the MP though..

Thanks for everything, you'r wonderful! xx

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madman101 at 2007-10-03 01:35 (UTC) (Lien)
ok babe

i have a lot to say but i want you to have some rest now

take care - i'm with you all the way
obscenely at 2007-10-03 02:22 (UTC) (Lien)
obscenely at 2007-10-03 02:23 (UTC) (Lien)
gosh i sut read over that, the cfs brain fog is BAD today... look at that spelling. I really apologise!
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madman101 at 2007-10-03 01:03 (UTC) (Lien)
ps - doctors don't apreciate the possiblity of candida yeast in the bloodstream. you may have seen signs of it as bad skin on your fingers. it also produces serious toxins out blood-brain barrior won't filter out.

so do all you can to fight yeast - no sugar, and minimal carbs. nuts are a great filler, esp. walnuts. use garlic, onions, YOGURT, and i think grape seed extract? - to fight yeast, but be careful not to do to much that you make your leaky intestines worse. i also saw that some cheeses have a yeast inhibitor in their ingredients - but i always avoid ANNATO in cheese, and take fish oil and benedryl afterwards to fight circulatory problems.

there is a prescribed anti-yeast drug for cfs patients - i don't want to say cuz i can't reacll perfectly, but this is often alternated with the anti-biotic dioxy something - ha ha - sorry

you maye find a problem with too much calcium - i did - but maybe it was due to vitamin D - either can be worked around

huhhhhhhhhhhh! done
shahman at 2007-10-02 04:07 (UTC) (Lien)
I think people should create um... a happy pill that makes you thin and also does, like cool stuff to you. Something like acid.
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madman101 at 2007-10-03 00:27 (UTC) (Lien)
that was me before cfs

we should create a pill that does everything, and call it "soma" - then men will no longer have hot flashes and women will get strong erections
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